Can a vehicle be built which can go directly downwind, faster than the wind (DDWFTTW), powered only by the wind, steady state? Thin Air Designs, in collaboration with the San Jose State University Aero department, along with generous corporate sponsors intend to definitively answer this question. Follow our quest.
Thursday, January 14, 2010
Tell me if I turn you (on)
We've spent quite a bit of time considering the instrumentation of the vehicle -- what sort of data streams would be valuable and how we would use them. We decided a while ago to build an instrumented propeller hub but spent more time than we would have liked choosing, locating and matching the parts to make that happen.
Through the magic of Ebay we finally picked up 8 affordable load cells. These cells are not exactly what we needed for all locations, but we have the ability to mill them, modify them and make them work on our budget.
We'll radially place three of these cells near the front of the hub to measure prop thrust, two will be placed at the back of the hub to measure torque and down below we'll build two into the frame of the chassis to measure the resistive force being place on the wheels by the ground. From these three streams we'll be able to derive prop efficiency as well as overall power transmission efficiency.
We had to figure out how to get our data off our spinning prop hub. We preferred to have access to this data 'real time', rather than storing it on the hub for later download.
In our real business, we work with a Canadian RF design shop regularly- Pacific Design Engineering (http://www.pde.com/). They helped us locate an off the shelf RF solution that will do the trick and then they generously sent us a sample to use on the project.
THANKS PDE!!
We'll be programming and testing this telemetry system over the next few weeks.In the end, these are the data streams we plan to be logging on the vehicle:
propeller thrust
torque applied to prop hub
prop shaft speed
retardant force on drive wheels
drive wheel shaft speed
Additionally, we'll be measuring and logging GPS plots and relative wind direction and wind speed at three levels on the vehicle -- low, center and top of prop. We'll likely use digitally instrumented pitot tubes and will place these well in front of the vehicle and out of the region of prop influence.
Friday, January 8, 2010
The cooked foam episode
Next time you're building a DDWFTTW vehicle propeller in your cold garage and using quartz work lights, here's a little tip -- turns out that the last 5 minutes of the bulbs life, right before it burns out, it produces MUCH more heat than normal. We had a light that had been in the same place for hours and hours with not a problem (all the way back to the day before) and all a sudden we noticed that there was a blister on the foam and then 'poof' the bulb went dark.
After this episode, we went to Lowes and bought a propane salamander heater to bring the garage up to temp without risking the foam. We were able to sand out the blister and fill the void, but it could have been a lot worse.
Getting rid of what's no longer needed

When we glued the foam sections onto the spar, the resin leaked out and ran down each seam on the back of the prop. This gave us a hard 'line' at each seam that didn't want to sand easily.
After a few different attempts, we finally found that a small sanding drum on a dremel tool could be used to lower the level of each seam below the desired surface. We'll then fill these seams and sand them level.
Home from the Holidays
After putting one layer of glass on the front side of each prop blade to create some structure, we removed the twist fixtures from the table and built a couple of clamps sets. These grab the spars and allow us to rotate both blades for sanding and the remainder of the glassing.
Monday, December 21, 2009
The first of many
Here's the first layer of the first side of the first blade. While there will be no more 'shaping' on this blade, there will be a fair bit of trimming and sanding between layers.
No, it won't make the Honda Insight go DDWFTTW
Tuesday, December 15, 2009
We learned today that for some reason, the glass fabric that we've had on order for a week or so was not shipped. A bit of a delay that we weren't expecting.









