Here's the first layer of the first side of the first blade. While there will be no more 'shaping' on this blade, there will be a fair bit of trimming and sanding between layers.
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Monday, December 21, 2009
The first of many
We've now started the rather long and rather laborious process of adding layer after layer of glass to each side of the propeller blades. We're going one layer at 0degrees and then one at 30d and one at 60d.
Here's the first layer of the first side of the first blade. While there will be no more 'shaping' on this blade, there will be a fair bit of trimming and sanding between layers.

Here's the first layer of the first side of the first blade. While there will be no more 'shaping' on this blade, there will be a fair bit of trimming and sanding between layers.
No, it won't make the Honda Insight go DDWFTTW
Tuesday, December 15, 2009
Rick got the tapered aluminum spar extension (formerly a ski pole) glued into the carbon spar bushing and the final sections bonded. A bit of filling and sanding and we're ready for glass.
We learned today that for some reason, the glass fabric that we've had on order for a week or so was not shipped. A bit of a delay that we weren't expecting.

We learned today that for some reason, the glass fabric that we've had on order for a week or so was not shipped. A bit of a delay that we weren't expecting.

Sunday, December 13, 2009
Just another Silicon Valley garage project
For the next phase (assembly and layup of the prop) we've had to move venues. With what we've got going at work right now, we don't have the space in the lab to leave the assembly fixures up for a week or so straight. We moved to Rick's garage for a bit.
Here are the first 5 segments evened up and glued. As you can see, the carbon spar ends at this juncture and there is a tapered aluminum spar which goes inside the carbon and continues on out through the smaller sections.
The holes you see along the top of the airfoil are where we poured the resin to saturate the spar/foam interface. The binder clip hold the trailing edge nice and even while the resin cures.
Here are the first 5 segments evened up and glued. As you can see, the carbon spar ends at this juncture and there is a tapered aluminum spar which goes inside the carbon and continues on out through the smaller sections.
The holes you see along the top of the airfoil are where we poured the resin to saturate the spar/foam interface. The binder clip hold the trailing edge nice and even while the resin cures.
Saturday, December 12, 2009
Nothing sticks
Monday, December 7, 2009
Practice makes ... incremental improvements
We put in a rather short day yesterday and did a bit of cutting practice on cheap construction foam. We had to glue two layers together for some because our pink foam is only 2" think.
We're hoping that we can get our cutting skills up to par before we throw down on the $250 chunks of blue foam.
Here's a root section and a section from about 2/3rds of the way out.

We're hoping that we can get our cutting skills up to par before we throw down on the $250 chunks of blue foam.
Here's a root section and a section from about 2/3rds of the way out.

Saturday, December 5, 2009
First look
All in the family
Smooth around the edges
The airfoil templates will guide the hot wire through the foam core section. The thin wire tends to catch on the fiberous edges of the plywood and if the wire pauses against the ply for even a moment, it will burn a groove in the wood.
You can make templates out of phenolic sheet or other dense and heat resistant materials, but we don't expect to use these particular templates more than once so we went the cheap route.
I sanded the edges with 600grit sandpaper and then trimmed them out with aluminum tape from the HVAC supply. The wire slides much better and a pause won't burn a groove nearly as fast. It's not perfect, but it's darn affordable.

You can make templates out of phenolic sheet or other dense and heat resistant materials, but we don't expect to use these particular templates more than once so we went the cheap route.
I sanded the edges with 600grit sandpaper and then trimmed them out with aluminum tape from the HVAC supply. The wire slides much better and a pause won't burn a groove nearly as fast. It's not perfect, but it's darn affordable.
Friday, December 4, 2009
Rick sent me a few profiles to post.
These are based on a 450lb vehicle/pilot weight. A Crr of .02. Frontal area of 20sf and a Cd of .3. Transmission efficiency of .8 and the prop thrust numbers from JavaProp.
We believe we can do better on some of those above numbers, but also we don't expect the prop to ever be quite as good as theoretical. In the end we think we can get quite close to the below.

These are based on a 450lb vehicle/pilot weight. A Crr of .02. Frontal area of 20sf and a Cd of .3. Transmission efficiency of .8 and the prop thrust numbers from JavaProp.
We believe we can do better on some of those above numbers, but also we don't expect the prop to ever be quite as good as theoretical. In the end we think we can get quite close to the below.

Tuesday, December 1, 2009
Where's Waldo?
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